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These were areas where Ottoman power was greatest and genocide would have been easiest. To decide whether genocide was intended, it is instructive to compare this to the Nazi genocide of the Jews. <em>The Jews of Berlin were killed, their synagogues defiled. The Armenians of Istanbul lived through the war, their churches open. <\/em><br \/>\n[08:40:59] &lt;gayreek&gt; Another telling argument against genocide is that <em>hundreds of thousands of Armenians survived deportation<\/em> to the Arab World. If genocide were intended, it must be believed that the Ottomans could not manage to kill them, even though these Armenians were completely under Ottoman control for three years. <em>This is not believable<\/em>.<br \/>\n[08:41:10] &lt;gayreek&gt; Of the masses of <em>secret deportation orders<\/em> seen to date, <em>not one orders murder<\/em>. Instead, they order Ottoman officials to protect deported Armenians. It has been argued that the Ottomans must have sent out another set of secret orders, contradicting the first set of secret orders, which were a subterfuge. This assumes that the Ottomans deliberately confused their own officials in wartime so that future historians would be fooled\u2014a<br \/>\n[08:41:30] &lt;gayreek&gt; It is the Muslim actions against Armenians that have been called genocide, an accusation that is primarily based on counting only the Armenian dead, not the Muslim dead. I do not believe the Ottoman government ever intended a genocide of Armenians<br \/>\n[08:42:05] &lt;gayreek&gt; It was in fact in the regions where Ottoman control was weakest that columns of Armenian deportees suffered most. The stories of the time give many examples of columns of hundreds of Armenians guarded by perhaps two government guards.<br \/>\n[08:42:29] &lt;gayreek&gt; When the columns were attacked by tribesmen or bandits Armenians were robbed and killed. It must be remembered that these tribes were those who had themselves suffered greatly at the hands of Armenians and Russians.<br \/>\n[08:57:04] *** gayreek (~liberator@42.56-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has left IRC ()<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0531\u0575\u057d\u0585\u0580, \u0561\u057c\u0561\u057e\u0578\u057f\u0575\u0561\u0576 EFNet\u056b #Armenia \u0566\u0580\u0578\u0582\u0581\u0561\u0580\u0561\u0576\u0578\u0582\u0574 \u0576\u056f\u0561\u057f\u0565\u0581\u056b \u0574\u056b \u0584\u0561\u0576\u056b \u057f\u0578\u0572\u0561\u0576\u0578\u0581 \u057a\u0580\u0578\u057a\u0561\u0563\u0561\u0576\u0564\u0561, \u0578\u0580\u0576 \u0567\u056c \u056b\u0574 \u0561\u0575\u057d \u0563\u0580\u0561\u057c\u0574\u0561\u0576 \u057a\u0561\u057f\u0573\u0561\u057c\u0568 \u0564\u0561\u0580\u0571\u0561\u057e\u0589 \u054a\u0580\u0578\u057a\u0561\u0563\u0561\u0576\u0564\u0561\u0576 \u057e\u0565\u0580\u0581\u057e\u0561\u056e \u0567 \u0539\u0578\u0582\u0580\u0584\u0561\u056f\u0561\u0576 \u056f\u0561\u0575\u0584\u056b\u0581 (tallarmeniantale.com)\u0589 \u0540\u0578\u0582\u0575\u057d\u0578\u057e \u0565\u0574 \u056f\u0561\u057f\u0561\u0580\u057e\u0561\u056e \u0574\u0565\u057b\u0562\u0565\u0580\u0578\u0582\u0574\u0568 \u056c\u0578\u0582\u0580\u057b \u0574\u057f\u0561\u0570\u0578\u0563\u0578\u0582\u0569\u0575\u0578\u0582\u0576 \u0579\u056b \u0561\u057c\u0561\u057b\u0561\u0581\u0576\u056b \u0570\u0561\u0575\u0565\u0580\u056b \u0574\u0578\u057f, \u0584\u0561\u0576\u0566\u056b \u0562\u0561\u057e\u0561\u056f\u0561\u0576\u056b\u0576 \u0576\u056f\u0561\u057f\u0565\u056c\u056b \u0567 \u0564\u0561\u0580\u0576\u0578\u0582\u0574 \u0569\u0578\u0582\u0580\u0584\u0565\u0580\u056b \u0574\u057f\u0561\u0570\u0578\u0563\u057e\u0561\u056e\u0578\u0582\u0569\u0575\u0578\u0582\u0576\u0568 \u0569\u0578\u0582\u0580\u0584\u056b\u0561\u0575\u0578\u0582\u0574 \u0561\u057a\u0580\u0561\u056e \u0570\u0561\u0575\u0565\u0580\u056b \u0565\u0582 \u0570\u0561\u0575\u0561\u056c\u0565\u0566\u0578\u0582 \u0581\u0565\u0572\u0565\u0580\u056b \u0581\u0565\u0572\u0561\u057d\u057a\u0561\u0576\u0578\u0582\u0569\u0575\u0561\u0576 \u0570\u0561\u0580\u0581\u0578\u0582\u0574\u0589 \u054e\u0565\u0580\u057b\u0561\u057a\u0565\u057d \u0576\u0580\u0561\u0576\u0584\u055d \u0585\u0580\u056b\u0576\u0561\u056f \u0561\u0575\u057d \u0569\u0578\u0582\u0580\u0584 \u0561\u0576\u0571\u0568, \u0578\u0580\u0568 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[124,81,94,125,63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-123","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-124","category-81","category-94","category-125","category-63"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/123","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=123"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/123\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=123"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=123"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gevorgian.com\/hakob\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=123"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}